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Apple Set to Release New Console, Will Rely Solely On Third Parties For Software Says Pachter

There's been a lot of speculation concerning Apple and what some believe will be it's inevitable entrance into the gaming industry. But still many analysts have doubts, arguing that the company already has three gaming devices: the iPhone, iPod Touch and now the iPad.

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Al Bundy5560d ago (Edited 5560d ago )

Too late, Microsoft beat them to it. It would be interesting to see who would win a bidding war for timed exclusive DLC between Apple and Microsoft.

movements5560d ago

You could say that but remember, Sony and Microsoft were not the first two companies in the industry.

Sega, Atari and Nintendo all were there before them. Nintendo still is; so if it wasn't too late for those guys, why can't Apple make its grand entrance and be successful?

It's quite possible.

PirateThom5560d ago

You think fanboys are bad now?

Apple fanboys are the worst of the worst.

Al Bundy5560d ago

He said that they will rely on 3rd parties. At least Microsoft had Halo to fall back on. What does Apple have?

movements5560d ago

@ Al Bundy, you make a good point. It'll be rough for them depending only on third parties, but who knows, contrary to what Pachter predicts, Apple could invest in first party devs.

No gaming company should live without internal studios. It's paramount imo.

hardcore19125560d ago

Unless one of the big three (Nintendo, Microsoft or Sony) step out of the competition which will not happen any time soon imo. It will be very crowded, the industry can't accept another player.

mjolliffe5560d ago

I'm not sure if it'll do well though. It'll be very overpriced, unless it has something every other console around doesn't, which is unlikely.

-Alpha5560d ago (Edited 5560d ago )

Dont take Pachter seriously when he says "Apple will rely on third parties only"

The guy is full of crap and makes the vaguest predictions. He is pathetic. Jesus, anybody can tell somebody Apple is set to release a console. Look at the wording, it's very clever so that it doesn't sound wrong: of course Apple is "set" to release a console, but that doesn't mean they have one. Pachter doesn't rely on logical reasoning, he relies and spurting out claims without proof, and as long as it sounds interesting and as long as people don't take the time to question him he will continue to be heard.

And that's the problem with people in general, they never question what they hear. "Apple is not known for internal software development" Well gee, that must mean they aren't going to rely on first party! If Apple were to enter the gaming industry they would have to rely on some form of exclusives and I am sure that Apple would try. Just because they don't have an internal software team now doesn't mean they wont, why the hell would Apple even have one right now to begin with?

Maybe it's just me, but I find he utters absolute nonsense.

Saaking5560d ago

Apple making a console? So it'd be overpriced and they'd release a brand new model every six months? If that's gonna be the case, then no thank you. Still, I'd rather have Apple than MS.

R2D25560d ago

the xbox and PS3 f@nboys were crazy, wait untill you meet the apple console f@nboy.

XDF5560d ago (Edited 5560d ago )

What a troll you are. Some how even if we are talking about a common enemy named Apple, you managed to get your 2 cents trolling on X360. Wow, just wow.

OT: Apple already have a game system named MAC. It has little no no first, second, or third party support. I don't think it will work because without any first party, it is 3DO all over again.

But, it will be fun adding Apple fanboys to N4G. Art designers, yuppies, and tech nerds that hang out in Starbuck with their shinny white MACbook raging war against Sony and Microsoft fanboys. It will be good time. LOL

baum5560d ago

FAIL. Why would I want a console with content I can find anywhere else? Maybe I should ask 360 only owners...

blue7xx75560d ago

Except Michael Pachter never said Apple will release a new console I love how this website took it out of context to get hits. He was referring to the Iphone and how Apple wont ever get into the game business but the Iphone is a legitimately gaming console/handheld so in a way they already are but they will fully rely on third party games to support it.

Bnet3435560d ago

I don't think this is happening, but if it does, expect it to cost you an arm or a leg.

Theonik5560d ago

Quite oddly they had halo. Until MS decided to buy bungie and cancel the then Macintosh exclusive halo and make it an Xbox game.

@Topic, Patcher should just shut up. apple tried to enter the console market with the pippin and failed dramatically other than the iphone i don't thing apple will do anything in regards to gaming. patcher just makes a lot of senseless predictions in the hopes that 1 will be true.

mega BIG time5560d ago

its official i have absolutely no room left for consoles with my 360, ps3, wii, and soon to be apple

RememberThe3575560d ago (Edited 5560d ago )

lol The only time you'd see 360 fanboys and PS3 fanboys unite would be against the Apple fanboys. What war that would be lol.

Plus, I can't really see this being successful. Apple i known for over priced hardware, and in the gaming market the hardware in known for being under priced to move software. If Apple does come out with a console they would have to go down the path that the Wii went down and I don't think Apple could hang with Nintendo.

@below: You actually said that... You do realize that you have one bubble because your a huge fanboy yourself, right?

EDIT: You calling me a moron is actually funny. You fanboys have this allusion that there is a conspiracy against 360 fans on this site. You talk as though your a gamer but all you do is talk sh*t about the PS3. That is why you don't have bubbles. If you would have logical criticisms of the PS3 you wouldn't lose your bubbles, but you fail to add anything constructive or insightful to any conversation your apart of.

I'm not loyal to anything other than God and my family, I just use my PS3 more and prefer it to my 360 mainly because my 360 is a launch model and has a ton of problems. I enjoy both consoles and tend to use my PS3 more because I want to stretch out how long I can use it before it craps out on me. Am I a fanboy when I talk about how good Mass Effect 2 is or how I enjoyed Bungies new approach the game design with ODST and Reach? Or when I talk about how I loved the first Gears of War and Prey and Crackdown? Or how I can't wait to get my hands on Metro 2033 or Conviction?

Frankly Thom was a making joke and your blind bias shows that you can't see that. Fanboys in general are annoying and narrow minded, fanboys like yourself. The fact that you thin one group is worse then the other shows how blind you really are.

EvilBlackCat5560d ago (Edited 5560d ago )

"You think fanboys are bad now?

Apple fanboys are the worst of the worst"

-NO OOOHHH NO

-PS3 loyalist are way worst than them

if apple jump in this sh1t... bye bye Sony PS

sorry disagree all you want but its like that

the 1st to die because of them >> PSP <<

@ the moron above

NO i only have one bubble because i dont gives a fnck about PS3 loyalist like you

but i really dont gives a fnck about Apple, MS, Sony and Nintendo because in this sh1t i follow the games i like and not the consoles.

jamesgtaiv5560d ago

Looks like a mix between a 360 and a trash can. I hope they keep that design.

nveenio5560d ago

THAT'S NOT EVEN WHAT PACHTER SAID!!! The author of this article blatantly left our the word "IF". This was purely hypothetical speculation. Apple is not releasing a console that is intended to compete with the 360/PS3...just like the iPod/iPhone was not released or intended to compete with the PSP/DS.

I reported this. This is the stupidest and most unprofessional article I've read in a long time...and that includes flame baiters.

BuZzz Killington5560d ago

someones aliitle to c%cky cause they wont the portable music player war.... game console division is going to eat apple alive they have the worst track record for decently affordable products......not to much theyre conputers cant even play games lol...like the ps3 and the 360 dont get viruses so apple cant play that card...so i really dont see how theyre going to succeed....

Oner5560d ago (Edited 5560d ago )

I see XDF and EvilBlackCat have a bad case of selective memory (seems a bit of a common occurance with "certain gamer types") and for some reason can't seem to remember how bad it was on N4G a few years ago with MS supporters...

Sorry if you can't handle the truth nor want to admit it to yourselves. But the fact is truth is the truth and it's all here in B&W for all to see if they want to go searching for the proof for verification.

@ Al Bundy ~ Priceless comment. Agree + Bubble...you deserve it ;)

fear885560d ago

They pride themselves on not getting viruses and having top of the line computer technology but my dell mini still manages to run OSX Snow Leopard and cost 30% of what those idiots would pay. And to make matters worse, If I were to put a "certain" cd in their mac, they would be on their knees crying.

Sheikh Yerbouti5560d ago

Real Mac Fanatics are that way because they are rich and like a boutique computer for a little conspicuous consumption. Or they are creatives who don't want to even pretend they're tech savvy geeks. I don't think either will translate into gaming.

And when Microsoft and its 3rd party demonstrated Windows 7 for our IT group here Indiana, they ran it on parallel on a MacBook. Mac's been running Windows for a while now...at times better than a PC. Goes both ways.

silverbeld5560d ago

'Apple Set to Release New Console, Will Rely Solely On Third Parties For Software Says Pachter'

If this is true, then they don't stand a chance. They will not survive the console war.

We all know developers are lazy. Porting games are crap. Exclusive games will make developers too get too the max for the console they working on. It will always looking better then port games.

And what makes you want too buy a console that only got multiplats. You will miss Gears off war, God of war, Garnturismo, zelda etc.

I hope Apple will make they're own exclusives. More consoles on the market better for the consumers.

Monkey5215560d ago

Since when do people take Patcher seriously? This guy makes the most ridiculous claims ever that are almost always wrong.

madpuppy5560d ago

from gaming. that is all we need, hipster douche bags talking up the shiny, low powered, OVERPRICED hunk of crap loaded with enough DRM to choke a sperm whale.

tplarkin75560d ago

Patcher is right, except that hardware is a money loser. Apple would have to go the route of the Wii to make profit from hardware. Then Patcher says that Apple can't compete with Nintendo. So, I don't see the motive for Apple to get into the home console market.

Arnon5560d ago

Great... just what we need. Apple fanboys.

Is it going to cost $3000?

mal_tez925560d ago

More useless than the iPad.

Will probably cost 2 grand as well

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PITTBULL835560d ago

and it will cost a 1000 dollars for an 8 gig,1200 16 gig and 1500 for a 32 gig lol.

Millah5560d ago

This is entirely just baseless speculation without even any kind of rumor to back it up.

Knowing the way Apple and Steve Jobs operates, its really unlikely Apple will release a true gaming system in the way of PS3 or 360. The way Apple sees things, is they already have the iPhone OS platform to fuel games development, so they wouldn't see a reason to step into the industry 100 percent with a dedicated console.

However, its a lot more likely that we'll see Apple put the iPhone OS platform on the Apple TV and an SDK alongside it to create applications for it in the app store. Thats probably the closest we'll see to Apple releasing a home gaming console.

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movements5560d ago

@ Pirate Thom lol, you might have a point there lol. It would be interesting to see a three-way war amongst Sony, Microsoft and Apple fans.

Although I still strongly believe the fanboy drizzle is just that: drizzle, nonsense, childish. It'd still be interesting though. ; )

Software_Lover5560d ago

Some of those guys really take that stuff to heart. When they curse and type they are really pissed. And when they are hurt they probably shed tears for real. Just sad really.

mastiffchild5560d ago

What's REALLY damn sad about it is they're blind to the damage they do in ensuring a divided gaming community where it's all too easy for lazy and untalented devs to pull scam after scam on us all. They even hurt themselves by playing their hilarious point scoring Reindeer games and don't realise it!

How on earth can holding a faceless corporation higher in their hearts and minds do anything other than serve the whims of a greedy, money leeching industry? Backing one of the major players at the expense of your fellow gamer, and ultimately themselves, is a road to nowhere to me but it still goes on regardless of sense and regardless of what their chosen companies inflict upon us all. It needs to stop and is way more harmful to us than most would like admitting, imho.

AngryTypingGuy5559d ago

Yeah, I don't think it'll succeed if it relies only on third party software...unless of course there's something really unique about it that customers HAVE to have.

Is this the mystery platform that Sonic 4 will be on? I was hoping it would be the Dreamcast 2.

I'm surprised Google hasn't entered the console market by now. It'll probably be only a matter of time before they do.

user8586215560d ago (Edited 5560d ago )

This might be a little far fetched, but imagine the apple tv was the console and the ipod/iphone were the controllers o_0!!!!

Its possible, but will it happen? o_0

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Nintendo Switch 2 To Sell 100M+ Units by 2029, Is The Most Important Console Launch Ever, Says DFC

DFC Intelligence has big expectations for the Nintendo Switch 2. They estimate over 100 million units sold by the end of 2029.

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_SilverHawk_5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

dont think itll happen because of COQ. it costs as much as gaming consoles that are way better in a lot of ways and nintendo normally thrives on selling cheaper hardware than the competition. i believe that because the switch 2 and the games are so expensive and are far inferior to better versions available for the same price or cheaper on better gaming consoles that gamers would rather get a better value for their money and buy something better than the switch 2. the switch 2 can do a lot better if it isnt expensive and the games are cheaper.

Muigi5d ago

Yeah but I can’t play my PS5 Pro on a plane or the subway.

Neonridr5d ago

don't worry, they'll tell you to buy a $300 accessory on top of the console so you can "stream" it to play it. (subject to network capabilities of course)

MrNinosan5d ago

@Neonridr
The Playstation Portal is amazing, but if you don't want to spend the 300$, just use your phone or tablet that you probably own already

jznrpg5d ago

@MrNinosan it’s 199$ for Portal

MrNinosan5d ago

@jznrpg
Might be, I just answered to his bullshit comment.
As I live in Sweden, I paid way more for my Portal, around 350$ at release, but still use it daily at work and in my bed, so well invested 👍

b00mFargl34d ago

However, the Switch 1.5's capabilities do not compare to those of the PS5 Pro; in fact, the Series S is more powerful.

The PlayStation does offer an accessory that provides a similar function, but many other handheld devices offer superior capabilities. Essentially, you are purchasing a device primarily for playing Mario games, with some niche features that Nintendo cleverly markets to its loyal customer base.

Jingsing4d ago

Also remember Switch 2 is now bigger than Switch. People don't like to carry as much stuff these days.

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Neonridr5d ago

*costs as much currently.

We've already seen MS have to adjust the price of their consoles, and it's possible Sony could follow suit.

And your definition of "far inferior" is subjective to the end-user. Can I take my PS5 Pro version of the game with me on the go? No.

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princejb1344d ago

Inferior according to who? You may not like Nintendo because they don’t have the most updated graphics but they do well when it comes to fun games. What’s the point of a game that looks beautiful but is boring to play. There’s a reason why they keep selling millions every generation.

thesoftware7304d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Silver, I disagree.

Nintendo sells consoles primarily off of their exclusive content that you can't get anywhere else ever. I will add that that content is regarded by many as some of the best in gaming, if not the best, along with a super loyal fanbase, nostalgia, and the most popular IPs ever created. The system will run exclusive 3rd party games as well as playable ports of current and future games for the next 4-5 years, the majority of casual gamers don't care about tech specs or FPS, and even some hardcore fans don't care that much, and will choose a very playable portable port for the versatility of playing on the T.V or on the go...

I think the price will have a small impact, but 100M in 4 years is totally doable. Where else can you play the next Zelda, Mario Kart, Metroid, and Pokemon games? It will sell.

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darthv725d ago

Pretty ambitious... it could be done so long as they lower the price of the games and the system to something more reasonable.

jznrpg5d ago

Least exciting Nintendo launch for me.

MrNinosan5d ago

First console I won't buy at release since the original NES.

repsahj5d ago

Not me. I am excited as when I first bought my Mario Odyssey bundle Switch 1.

MrNinosan5d ago

Because of Mario Kart?
Or what is it that excites you?

repsahj5d ago

Because of everything Switch 2, I am very impressed with what I am seeing so far. And because 3 of my friends who I play Helldivers 2 with will also get it. We will all be getting the Mario Kart World bundle.

Elda5d ago

For me...I beg to differ it's an important launch knowing it's not launching with any interesting exclusives except the $80 Mario Kart & I'm not into racers. Until I see some interesting Switch 2 exclusives that I think are a must play I can wait as long as possible before obtaining a Switch 2.

Neonridr5d ago

While I'm getting MK at launch, I'm actually most interested in Donkey Kong. I love the destructible environments.

NotoriousWhiz5d ago

I'm most interested in trying out cyberpunk with mouse controls. If they work really well, Switch 2 may be my console of choice for shooters.

MrNinosan5d ago

Couldn't you try that on PC for the last 5+ years?

NotoriousWhiz4d ago

^ I don't game at a desk and am not interested in using one of those lap desk things. My only "gaming computer" is a steam deck.

neutralgamer19925d ago

I’ve seen a lot of people projecting that the Switch 2 will sell over 100 million units by 2029. While I understand the optimism—especially considering the original Switch’s success—I think those numbers might be overlooking the current state of the market and how much it’s shifted.

First off, we need to stop using early sellouts or pre-order hype as a reliable indicator of long-term success. Every major console that’s launched in the last 25 years has sold out during its pre-order window. Even consoles that were ultimately considered commercial disappointments—like the Wii U—sold out at launch. The PS3, which launched at a hefty $600 back in 2007, still had people lining up. That early rush is almost always driven by the core gaming audience, not the mass market. The real test comes after that honeymoon phase, when sales depend on casual gamers and broader adoption.

And that’s where things get trickier now.

The gaming landscape has changed dramatically. Mobile gaming has completely taken over in terms of both revenue and number of players. It’s bigger than console and PC gaming combined, and it's still growing. That makes sense when you think about it: everyone already has a phone, and many have tablets too. Pair that with a Bluetooth controller and you’ve got a portable, high-quality gaming experience with almost no extra cost.

Consoles and gaming PCs, on the other hand, require a substantial investment just to get started. When money is tighter for a lot of households and the average consumer is more price-conscious, it becomes harder to justify spending $400–600+ on a single-use gaming device—especially when they already own something that plays games well enough.

I’m not saying the Switch 2 won’t be successful. Nintendo has a strong brand and a loyal fanbase. But I do think people are underestimating how much harder it is today to move that kind of hardware volume. The market’s more competitive, more fragmented, and more mobile than ever before

Neonridr5d ago

I fully expect the Switch 2 to sell 100M units. But to say it'll do it within 4 years is a big ask.

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