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Killzone 2 to outdo Halo 3 in sales? Underground Hype 8

This week, AnalogHype is back with another episode of the Underground Hype, the only podcast that is scientifically proven to make you wanna slap yo' mama... or something. Aside from all that, though, Adrian, Marcus, Stephen, Keem, and Khalid come together for a nice round of heated gaming discussion that'll make any fanboy wet his pants. What did they talk about, you ask? Well aside from pressing the Play button, you can read these bullet points.

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Snake Raiser5968d ago

Agreed... they mixed that up with GT5. Also how did GOW(god, not gears of) sell? MGS is the only major PlayStation franchise I keep up with.
I am sooo sad, I own FF12 and I have only played about 15 minets of FF in my life.

Foliage5968d ago

I think Sony should develop a game and title it "The Red Ring of Death". Then the fanboys can debate whether it is a 360-killer. It will be hilarious!

Aclay5968d ago

@Snake,

God of War 2 sold 2 million copies within it's first 4 months on the market. I'm not sure how much God of War 1 sold and couldn't find any info on it's sales, but I'd imagine that it's sold just as much as God of War 2.

THC CELL5967d ago

They did it was very close

I tell ya they almost had it

earwax5967d ago

Then try and take on the big boys. I love all the usual Sony fanboy hype before a game,because I love to read about how the game NEVER lives up to the Sales. EVER.

AngryTypingGuy5967d ago

Killzone to outsell Halo? Remember, this is the PS3 we're talking about here people. Half of the people only bought it for BluRay.

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TheHater5968d ago

I got my popcorn ready for this one.
But I will say one thing. I will be getting a copy of Killzone 2 and that all that matter to me.

Danja5968d ago (Edited 5968d ago )

but lets be real here it wont out do Halo 3 sales...I dont think even Sony expect this from the game..but it will sell well and hopefully Sony does some serious marketing for this game because it deserves it..

Im guessing around 4-5 million....

GT5 is what will probably out-do Halo 3 in sales

Pandemic5968d ago (Edited 5968d ago )

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Helghast Slayer5968d ago

Only time will tell. With killzone2 topping the preorder lists of gamestop.com, play.com and amazon.com, one would think killzone2 has the potential to be a big seller for the ps3 and Sony. Lets wait and see.

TheExecutive5968d ago (Edited 5968d ago )

Sorry fanboys but it wont outsell Halo3. This doesnt mean it will be a worse game, but it wont outsell halo. If it does i will eat crow but I highly, highly, highly doubt it.

Anyway, like I said, it doesnt mean KZ2 will be the worse game but it just doesnt have the selling power halo did.

INehalemEXI5968d ago (Edited 5968d ago )

I'm pretty sure it wont sell as well first day ,week, month or even year but it could end up outselling Halo 3 before the generations over depending on if PS3 sales do end up snowballing as PS2's did. Most important though I bought Halo3 and I got KZ2 on pre order status.

CommonSense5968d ago

that right when i clicked to read this article the song "Dream On" by
Aerosmith came on.

gamesmaster5968d ago

by halo 3 selling power you mean raw marketing right.. thats all i could see

crck5968d ago (Edited 5968d ago )

No way in hell KZ2 is going to outsell Halo 3. I think Sony would be hella happy if it sold half of what Halo 3 did. That'd be about 5 million units? That would make it the best selling PS3 game to date. But of course the crazed fanboys will disagree and be disappointed once again when they cling onto ridiculous expectations. I thought Halo 3 was average and KZ2 will probably be a better game but the better game doesn't always sell more.

gamesmaster5968d ago

come on, i'm a bit of a sony head, but KZ 2 wont outsell halo 3. the franchise just isn't established in the casual market as the halo brand, thats what gets sales. oh and marketing of course.

lets be real

Lifendz5968d ago

maybe if Sony advertised like MS did for Halo 3; but it hasn't. I haven't even seen an ad in the Official PSM. No tv spots, no fast food promos, nothing. C'mon Sony, pick up the slack.

dredgewalker5968d ago

Maybe it will since there is no way that this will ever be pirated on a PS3.

jwatt5968d ago

When Killzone comes out and it doesn't outsell Halo please don't look at Sony fanboys like they were saying it, it's the media that's saying it. I think the game will sell well but I be even surprised if it did Gears' numbers. Even though it's Killzone 2, I still think of it as a new ip because there are still alot of people who don't know about Killzone outside of the internet. Preorders are looking good so far but it would also help if the ps3 was a litlle cheaper. I think it should sell well though.

Megaton5968d ago (Edited 5968d ago )

It won't. Nothing is advertised as much as Halo, not even most products outside of the gaming world. In all seriousness, I'd bet the Halo 3 ad bankroll was bigger than the dev bankroll. Throw that much ad money at a half-eaten sandwich and you'd have midnight launches full of people lined up to take a bite.

ThanatosDMC5968d ago

Reserved it at Gamestop. Got my promo code... i want to download the demo as soon as possible!

duplissi5968d ago

i highly doubt it, because it doesnt have nearly the same level of public penetration.
everyone knows halo, mario, zelda, pokemon, donkey kong. but how many people know of killzone?

AAACE55968d ago

Killzone 2 will be a great game and millions will buy it!

But I have to wonder, why are people so concerned with comparing it to Halo 3 in some form or another?

H3 is just a game that alot of people got hooked on, just like KZ 2 will be.

jammy_705967d ago

we all know its going to be better than halo 3 and thats all that matters

gaffyh5967d ago

I can see a LOT of people buying KZ2, but whether it will surpass Halo 3 sales.. i dunno. I will say one thing about it though, more (non-hardcore gamers) people know about KZ2, than any other game out on PS3.

Amsterdaam5967d ago

You know, for all intents and purposes it should dethrone Halo 3, but it won't. Here's why:

Advertising. How many Killzone commercials have you seen? I watch a lot of shows that would be perfect advertising for this game (24, Fringe, Burn Notice, etc.) that cater to their specific demographic, but I have yet to see a Killzone commercial TV. The only reason I know anything about it is because I visit a number of hardcore gaming websites.

Sony needs to market. They can't sit back on their haunches and expect the hardcore and hardcore alone to spread the word for them. They need to keep with the competition and sell their product. If they did, and the game turns out good, (not saying it won't, I just haven't personally played it yet) not only would it topple Halo 3, it would directly cause a console sales resurgence.

prowiew5967d ago

I doubt it, but it could be close. PS3 have now a larger install base than 360 when halo 3 was released.

Blaze9295967d ago

be real for a second, EVERYONE. put the fanboy bs to the side. you know damn well K2 wont outsell Halo 3. case closed

uie4rhig5967d ago

while i don't think KZ2 is gonna outsell Halo 3, i do think it would depending on how good sony will market it world wide.. give a Halo 3 type marketing, or go beyond that, and i would give this statement the benefit of doubt, but if sony doesn't market it properly (a la almost every PS3 game) then it will DEFO not outsell halo 3..

look at MGS4, it has sold 4million (correct me if i'm wrong) to date, and the marketing for that was one of the best marketing for a PS3 game..

Beast_Master5967d ago

KZ2 will not sell as many as Halo for one simple reason! Because Halo and Gears is all MS has. They used to have Knights of the Old Republic but have lost that studio. Halo is their Mario, Gears is their Zelda simple as that. Sony has MGS, Grand T, Jax and Dexter and Kratos for now, they used to have GTA and FF, but they lost them. Not to say R&C, Sackboy and Nathan Drake could be added to that list, but they are not the big reason to pick up a PS3 at this time. Sorry Fanboys that is the truth! You buy a 360 for their shooters and a PS3 for their diversity.

Rhoic5967d ago

Uhhh... That doesn't even make sense BeastMaster.. So you're saying that a franchise that sold 8.1 million according to Jan. '08 stats only sold well because it was on the 360?

Beast_Master5967d ago

No, I am saying that just about everyone who owned an original Xbox owned Halo or Halo 2. Don't get me wrong I am not dissing the franchise, at all, it defined online console FPS for years (Socom did good for 3rd person shooters). So when people picked up the 360 Most of those people where already halo fans. Look Halo is MS's Mario ok, do I need to point out that MS is releasing 2 Halo games this year and are rumored to have tapped Gearbox to do Halo 4 and Peter Jackson to create Halo Chronicles? Just like almost everyone who owned an original NES owned Super Mario 1, 2 and 3. And they continue to pick up every iteration afterward.

So my point is that the PS brand got it's install base by a cluster of different games, PS1 was Crash, RE, MGS and FF7. Not everyone who owned a PS had all of those games, most got it based on one or two of those titles. Same with PS2, People picked up PS2 for GTA3, Grand Tar., MGS2, or FF10. OK Sony doesn't have that game that half of their console owners have a copy of, the only thing that is close is GTA and GT. PS has always been know for having the best variety for 3 straight generations now, we have seen this. So that is why I think KZ2 will not sell as much as Halo because the PS3 install base is so varied.

gamesmaster5967d ago

halo is synonymous to the xbox brand, anyone who owns a 360 or knows about xbox knows about halo, that's why its sold 8.1 million. the same cant be said for killzone. the only exclusive game i can see ever beating halo in sales is Grand turismo 5. (if i ever live to see it, i hope)

smokeandapancake5967d ago (Edited 5967d ago )

Only if...they issue a special edition cat helmet version!

cherrypie5967d ago (Edited 5967d ago )

"Only time will tell."

Are you people for real?

Xbox 360 has the highest game-attach rate in the history of gaming. Halo 3 set all time industry sales records.

Halo 3 has sold 9 Million Copies to date. That is Almost as many as Resistance, MGS4 and Motorstorm **COMBINED**.

There are ~28M Xbox 360s in the world.
There are ~17M PS3s in the world.

The very question posed here is 100% ridiculous troll.

There is -ZERO- chance that KZ2 will outsell Halo 3. Not. Going. To. Happen.

EDIT: "When Killzone comes out and it doesn't outsell Halo please don't look at Sony fanboys like they were saying it, it's the media that's saying it. "

This is some worthless idiot audio-blog. This isnt "the media". "The Media" is places like marketwatch.cnn.com, bloomberg, AP and the rest that have been running articles like "The PS3 has failed" -- and N4G's Sony Fanboys run off in these forums saying "oh, what do they know". Or, "The Media" may be analysts like the ones we heard who just slashed the PS3 projected sales from 6.25M to 4.0M for 2009.

See, N4G has become a collection of Anything Anti-MS.

jessupj5967d ago

I think you'll find there's a little more then 17 million ps3 consoles sold world wide. I don't know the exact estimate but it's definately a few million more.

And please don't take this blog as the entire opinion of the sony fanboy population. I'm a little bit of a sony head, but even I can admit there's no way Killzone 2 will sell like halo 3. But I can say that quite comfortably because we all know sales don't = quality.

As for the actual quality of the game, I haven't played either titles but it's looking like Killzone is going to set the benchmark quite high, and that's good for everyone.

gamesmaster5967d ago

"There are ~28M Xbox 360s in the world.
There are ~17M PS3s in the world."

17m ps3's in the world??!?? so are the other 4 million in space or something? listen if you're gonna bring consoles shipped to the debate, at least get your numbers right, blimey! i respect your point that KZ2 wont out sell halo 3 though, but that's a given.

Beast_Master5967d ago (Edited 5967d ago )

" Halo 3 set all time industry sales records. "

you do know that 9 milion, which I doubt, is still only half of what Nintendogs, Wii Fit and Super Smash brothers have sold. And the "attach rate that you mention was from 2007, last year it was found that once Sony's library started to expand so did the attach rate. And at the moment I believe the attach rates of the 360 and PS3 are close + add to the fact that we buy Blu-rays as well. So PS3 owners actually spend more which makes since we are older and have better jobs than you 360 owners.

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Cherchez La Ghost5968d ago

Halo 3 did over 9 million in sales. Only time will tell.

jack who5968d ago

3mili of those in the 1st weeks

pav23235968d ago

"3mili of those in the 1st weeks"

Do you know a better way to silence 9-year-olds? Please do tell.

Simon_Brezhnev5968d ago

just put jack who aka jack ass on your ignore list

gamesmaster5968d ago

jack is my first name, and this guy is putting it to shame.

cherrypie5967d ago

Halo 3 has sold over 9 Million.

Resistance, MGS4 and Motorstorm have sold about 10M copies **COMBINED TO DATE**.

The only thing that "time will tell" is how stupid this very question is.

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Aclay5968d ago (Edited 5968d ago )

I don't think Killzone 2 will outdo Halo 3 in sales, but I do definantly think it's going to sell just as much as MGS4 or a little more because KZ2 is the the most anticipated game to hit the PS3 since MGS4.

The only PS3 game that I can see outselling Halo 3 is Gran Turismo 5, because every Gran Turismo game has sold more than 8 million copies, with Gran Turismo 3 topping out at over 14 million copies.

Maddens Raiders5968d ago

the Gran Turismo series has sold the most titles of any franchise to date?

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Sonyslave31d 22h ago

🙄 same guy who said 80$ is a steal lol and according to him M$ shouldnt put good on a services🤣 wtf

Obscure_Observer1d 10h ago

Talks about "innovation" while all his previous company is focused on is GaaS and Remasters. Smh.

This guy is a walking contradiction.

pwnmaster30001d 9h ago

This makes no sense at all.
What does his PREVIOUS company have to do with him and his statement??
Did he have a say on what they are doing? Could of sworn that was Jim Ryan’s fault?

Outside_ofthe_Box1d 6h ago

"This guy is a walking contradiction."

The irony

Profchaos20h ago(Edited 20h ago)

Yet he was In charge and led the PlayStation to overtake xbox

Console VR was birthed because if him he pushed the whole psvr project if that isn't innovative then what is.

Doesn't matter how many alts you use to try and constuct ab alt narrative shu is highly respected in the industry and has done as much for gaming as some of the best names in the industry

Obscure_Observer5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

@Profchaos

I don´t care what he did in the past.

Sony didn´t cared for him either as he was forced to accept a role as CEO of Indie games or get out! After everything he done for the company.

https://www.eurogamer.net/f...

I been seeing LOTS of innovative day one games on Gamepass (Including Clair Obscur) and all I´ve been seeing for Playstation first party @Full Priced is mostly (but not only) GaaS and Remasters. Deny all you want, that´s the truth.

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XiNatsuDragnel1d 19h ago

I can agree with that on some level

robtion1d 2h ago

Subscription services are absolutely awful. They have essentially destroyed the movie industry and unfortunately gaming may be next.

In the long term you will end up needing 10 different subscriptions and the prices will keep going up while the quality keeps going down.

MrDead1d 16h ago

Subscription services have f***ed the movie industry and it's work force, caused massive studio buyups by companies like Disney consolidating huge parts of the industry under one roof and have creatively sterilised the IP's they've gobbled up. The same thing is happening to gaming, MS being the main greedy piggy.

goken1d ago

Well… if you’re talking about the US movie industry, then I couldn’t agreed with you more.
But the movie industry isn’t just the US. For some other countries, it’s been considered good. Like where i am, the movie industry here used to be terrible, now it’s a bit less terrible. Mostly this is because in the past movies only can make money mostly on it’s cinema run, but now after the cinema run they can get some funds from the subscription services. Which helps significantly.
But these movies mostly suck due to the low budgets and general lack of talent lol

Vits1d 12h ago

I get what he's saying, but I don’t think we need subscription services to see a lot of the problems he's pointing out. All we really have to do is look at the gaming industry over the last two console generations. Even without subscriptions, the big AAA publishers have already been moving in a direction where almost every game feels like it's built from the same template. It’s all about streamlined, safe design choices that are meant to appeal to the widest possible audience. At this point, you could probably ask an AI to make a AAA game from a certain publisher and it would spit out something pretty close to what they’re actually making.

Now, about the whole “walled garden” thing... that’s not some future problem, it’s already here. Consoles have always worked like that. Their entire business model is based on controlling what gets released on their platforms. Sure, maybe they’re not as locked down as the extreme examples people bring up, but the end result is similar. If you’re not making the kind of game the platform holder wants, you’re probably not getting through the door. We’ve seen it with Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft, even Valve does this in its own way with Steam. So yeah, the issue isn’t new or exclusive to subscription services.

Would a subscription-only future make that problem worse? Sure, it definitely could. But I don’t think we’re heading in that direction anytime soon. Unless physical hardware truly becomes a thing of the past and everyone switches to streaming games, I just don’t see subscriptions becoming the dominant model. They’ll stick around as an option, but I doubt they’ll take over completely.

Now, what will take over completely is digital media, and that’s a whole different issue that’s going to hit us a lot sooner. PC and mobile are already basically 100% digital, and that makes up around 70% of the gaming market. The remaining 30% is consoles, and even there we’re seeing the shift. Sony’s removing the disc drive from boxed consoles, Nintendo is releasing just one super expensive 64GB cartridge for their new system, which means almost all third-party publishers will end up going digital and Microsoft is mostly digital already. You either get a digital-only or a physical box with disc that only acts as a activation key. So yeah, that future’s already knocking on the door and the damage will be enormous.

CrimsonWing691d 11h ago

Right, because then you can’t sell individual games at $80, which is an incredible value for the consumer!

BLow1d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

I find this statement quite telling. Apparently a certain fan base wasn't buying games at $60 or $70 dollars either. That's why the Gamepass model exists with day and date. What was the excuse then?

We as gamers want it all but don't want to pay for anything. Well, I take that back. A good chunk of them. You don't have to buy a game at $80. Wait for to go down in price. Most gamers have a massive backlog. Play those games until the one you wants drops and n price. Simple

MDTunkown1d 1h ago

I doubt Mario will go down at price

goken1d ago

I never buy any games at full price, it’s up to the consumer to wait for a price cut.

Generally I don’t buy above $10, normally around $5. So don’t agree with 80 70 60? Just wait a bit

CrimsonWing6917h ago

Totally fair if that approach works for you, but the flip side is that some dev studios do rely on full-price sales to stay afloat—especially smaller or AA teams. The ‘just wait for a sale’ mindset can really hurt games that aren’t backed by massive budgets or publishers.

It’s also kind of a bummer to finally see a game release you’ve been hyped for, only to feel like you have to wait another year or two just to get a decent discount.

That said, I think the deeper issue is with bloated dev budgets. It’s wild seeing games like First Berserker or Expedition 33 launching at $50 while still managing to look great and make a profit. Meanwhile, some AAA studios say $70 isn’t enough to break even. That raises real questions about where the money’s going and whether the pricing problem is actually a budgeting problem.

thorstein13h ago

To me, it depends on who made it and who will profit.

I bought No Man's Sky back in 2016. They gave me all updates, PSVR,PS5, and PSVR2 versions all for free.

That makes it worth every dollar I spent. Same with Balatro, Stardew Valley, Dave the Diver etc.

Chevalier23h ago

Yeah weird it's like a certain fan base that doesn't buy ANY games and their sales cratered that was why prices has gone up to $80...... hmmm...... they've the same one that has tried to buy up the industry and now has to release games on competing platforms to be viable now...... but you know the studio/company slipped my mind

goken9h ago

You have a point on the bloated development budgets.

I mean look at black myth wukong’s $80m budget vs the $150-200m (possibly more) budget of concord.

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repsahj3d ago

CDPR please! Make a free Switch 2 upgrade of Witcher 3 or even with a small fee of $2.49 (like Fantasy Life did).

_Decadent_Descent2d ago

Haven't even touched the first one yet.

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