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thechosenone4413d ago (Edited 4413d ago )

Hey Prcko you're the top dog now! Congrats. bub+1 for being awesome.

my fav moment so far

Geoff: What does MS need to have at this event to make it really special

Ex-MS crony: Halo

Geoff: Another Halo? (you actually saw him frown)

heh

(it's moments like these that make watching boring press events so worth it. :D)

Rev3games is also doing a live stream
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

(Forza overtook GT? When the hell did this happen? Did their last game sell more than 10 million copies? Did the franchise sell more than 70 million copies total? So how in Da fook did they over take GT?! Answer me gametrailers!)

Gazondaily4413d ago

Gotta love the dramatic music. Less than 2 minutes left!!!

darthv724413d ago

cloud powered...interesting

Gazondaily4413d ago (Edited 4413d ago )

Entertainment console confirmed. Wow so friggin fast. Multi tasking is brilliant on this.

But where are the games??

Skips4413d ago

Microsoft - "We at Xbox LOVE gaming.......... now let's watch TV."

thechosenone4413d ago (Edited 4413d ago )

MS stuck in the 90s? This would have been cool a number of years ago but today everyone is moving away from the traditional content distribution model and having it being centralized in just one place.

What about the hardware? Where's the info on how beefy it is compared to PS4? heh

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Gazondaily4413d ago

15 exclusive ips. Wow very good. Lets hope they are core titles.

Gazondaily4413d ago

Lol the new COD looks so mediocre. Battlefield 3 on PC destroys it visually and technically.

thechosenone4413d ago (Edited 4413d ago )

That was lame so incredibly lame. :D Without question PS4 > Xbox -1. PS4 is a much more attractive product for gamers but if TV & Movies is your thing then I suggest you go with the Xbox.

(and COD looks current gen! lulz But don't worry it'll have the same old laggy gameplay and poor hit-detection just like always. COD DOA next-gen, Killzone, Destiny, BF4 all day).

@Septic from the 15, 8 are new IPs but they didn't say how many of those were kinect titles.

Computersaysno4413d ago

Xbox 1 came out 12 years ago didn't it?

Doh!!!!!!!!!!

malokevi4413d ago

They spent half the show talking about sports, sports games, fantasy teams, and interviews with sports stars...

I DONT CARE EVEN A LITTLE BIT.

All I wanted to see was some impressive software... I saw NOTHING.

No demonstration of Kinect integrated into games. Nothing really cool... at all.

The TV thing is awesome, the social capabilities, but... that was supposed to be the gravy. Wheres the potatoes? WHERES THE GAMES?

I'm sort of dissapointed right now. Console looks beutiful, funtionality is awesome, but... I didn't see what I wanted to see.

At least the PS4 conference had tech demos, trailers, in-game footage, and that cool modeling app with the Move.

Microsofts focus is BS. If they don't demonstrate some serious stuff at E3 next month, i will be considering PS4 as my primary gaming console.

Which is sad news to me...

Anon19744413d ago (Edited 4413d ago )

That was god awful. What was that? 50 minutes of how the Xbox is now a cable box? I see that Sony stock surged up almost 10% in a matter of minutes to a high not seen in a year and a half about mid way through this train wreck.

But onto the event. It seems always on, always watching, showed no games (just cgi trailers) and the entire focus was on how the Xbox was your new cable box. Seriously, we should take this whole Xbox reveal thread and move it over to TechSpy because it had almost nothing to do with games, which I believe is supposed to be the focus of this site.

The original Xbox was my favourite console of it's gen (sorry PS2). The 360 was alright. I was already planning on waiting with the Xbox One just because of hardware issues I suffered through with the 360, but now I think I'll pass. There just seems to be no reason a gamer would actually buy one of these based on that reveal.

Microsoft have lost their collective minds, in my opinion. It's like they have no clue who took the Xbox to the heights it achieved. It was a big middle finger to all Xbox fans.

loulou4413d ago (Edited 4413d ago )

darkride your talking out of your arse, and no doubt that stock thread yours that got failed.

the tv stuff was great no doubt. the rapid moving between services was good aswell. and the kinect/skype will be great for using when i speak to my family in the UK.

the console looks like a no nonsense console (looks wise) with a hint of blu-ray player and set-top box.... which it is. buy the looks you can see that microsoft are trying to appeal to a broader market. which i think is going to work in their favour.

i still want to see what they show at e3.. but with the talk of the cheque book being flashed, and 15 exclusives within 12 months of launch, they are up for it.

i think that they are going to give sony an even tougher fight next-gen..

ps4 and xbox1 are both day 1 for me now.

DragonKnight4413d ago

People though Microsoft would reveal a next gen gaming console. What we all got was an "entertainment" box that does sports and voice commands really well but...

SilentNegotiator4413d ago

YES! HALO!

....television series.

*HURK*

MysticStrummer4413d ago

Hear that sound? It's Sony laughing.

MS could still redeem themselves at E3, but this reveal might have actually helped PS4 buzz.

gta28004413d ago

If Comcast made a new cable box that happened to have some gaming capability it would be the Xbox One!

DARK WITNESS4413d ago (Edited 4413d ago )

Wow...

and they had the nerve to take the piss out of sony for not showing hardware, what a joke.

MS could not have got this more wrong.. yet again.

There are loads of people in my office that have 360 for casual gaming, None of them stayed behind to watch this crap. The 4 of us who did were all waiting for them to show games...

The only smart thing they did was not change the controller and make sure the casing was so big there is no chance of it RROD'ing

I can now safely say i am pre-ordering my ps4

nix4413d ago (Edited 4413d ago )

feels surreal.

i mean how can MS screw this up? after Sony's show everyone wanted to hear about games on xbox. games. but noh. i wonder which idiots are running this show?

they probably went back to xbox one bcoz ipad also went back to 1 or a zero, in their case.

funniest part is Sony's stock going up midway. i mean talk about irony there.

i can't wait to read the memes now.

RedDevils4412d ago (Edited 4412d ago )

DAMN that one ugly BOX LMAO

BattleAxe4412d ago

No real game announcements, lots of TV, a live action Halo series, a new Forza game, Kinect with every console....ths was all too predictable, and I'm really underwhelmed by this press conference.

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bintarok4413d ago

XboxReveal at Xbox.com plays war-themed fanfare songs, the next gen war is about to BEGIN!

Maddens Raiders4413d ago (Edited 4413d ago )

Damn it looks bigger than my family's first vcr! just saying... not judging its power.

Entertainment-centric, Always ON???? whoaaaa.....

I don't want to watch TV, I want to game!!

Bam! 2013

The controller seems to be a bit of the same?

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Donnieboi4413d ago (Edited 4413d ago )

I found it kinda hard to stay awake during the whole thing. Was kinda boring. And that new COD game doesn't excite me about COD again.

Sports games and COD...typical. At least xbox knows it's own audience. I'm still not interested...

MYSTERIO3604413d ago

It seems MS are competing with the cable box market. Good luck

ZombieKiller4413d ago

they strayed even further from games and brought the thing I hate the most to it.....sports. First off, I work in the cellular industry and the smart phones nowadays, do what this Xbox one does. I can't stand the sports takeover. its a gaming console. as if we didn't have TV already. they showed 3 games, on of which was call of doody....

despite having a 360, I'm not getting this one. it looks like its just going to be another money grubbing decade for MS. This time looks to be with things I dont want too.

It sounds like the titles to these consoles are really the scoreboard to how many generations of consoles I will ever buy from the companies. playstation=4 xbox=1

Rhaigun4412d ago

Its the very first day we've seen this machine, and I already hate it. I'd rather buy a WiiU at this point.

Psn8004413d ago (Edited 4413d ago )

Ugh not for me this time around ! Ps4 all the way .

Count4413d ago

Gee. Color me surprised.

Docknoss4413d ago

I heard that Kevin Butler will be giving a presentation for xbox at the E3 conference and his closing quote is "it only does everything better"!

Apocalypso4412d ago

The only place you heard that was from reading your comment out loud before posting.

Imalwaysright4413d ago (Edited 4413d ago )

I didn't watch the conference but judging by the comments here it seems that MS will be following the same strategy they had with the 360 in the past 3 years and to me that is a no no. They better have new core Ips at E3 or else as far as gaming is concerned the Xbox and MS are dead to me.

fatstarr4413d ago

after watching it twice. gen 8 is doomed Nintendo, sony and Microsoft failed us.

https://www.youtube.com/wat... the feelings of most watching.

aceitman4413d ago

my question is who is the people that clap at any and everything.

RE4PER-DE4TH4412d ago (Edited 4412d ago )

The reveal did exactly what it was supposed to and it showed a lot about their plan to have a solid living room solution. It doesn't mean that it's not a games console, it's just like the guy said about having to switch inputs to get to other content. So now instead of a media center pc, a Roku device, a cable box, and a wifi router to network all that now it's integrated into one machine. That doesn't spell the doom of Xbox being a games console! The console still comes with a controller, not a remote like for your TV. They know gamers want games and they know living rooms are the center for entertainment.

Question to all the PS fanboys: when PS2 came with DVD playback did that stop it from being a games console? Did it take away the focus of PS2 gamers playing their games? No, a gamer will play his or her games first and foremost before they look at the other capabilities of a console.

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Hellsvacancy4413d ago (Edited 4413d ago )

2 mins old and 900*, 2 comments? did someone manually turn the thermostat up?

Edit: I see :)

Emilio_Estevez4413d ago (Edited 4413d ago )

Admin moved it up there so it's readily available for everyone to see.

yes, he did. (not me)

Also, be sure not to waste all your bubs here to early guys and gals.

TrevorPhillips4413d ago

Thank you Emilio! :)

Btw, any chance on a new Mighty Ducks movie loll :P

brave27heart4413d ago

Quack quack quack quack.....

ArmrdChaos4413d ago (Edited 4413d ago )

You can fix the bubble system by changing it so that new accounts start off with only 1 bubble. That way the people who want to act like asshats only to create a new account for more bubbles will have no recourse. Want more bubbles...then I guess you will have to earn them and behave appropriately.

Emilio_Estevez4413d ago

Neither of us can change that, srry dude...We do try to watch new accounts though and it does yield results.

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Christopher4413d ago

I abused my powers. I admit it.

What time should I expect the lynch mob?

:D

Etseix4413d ago

in a bit, we're getting snacks and sodas at the store first :D

DragonKnight4413d ago

This kind of thing is worth the power abuse though. Console reveals should be at the top of the list in terms of heat.

Still, WORST CONSOLE REVEAL EVER!

Tonester9254413d ago

IT'S ABOUT THAT TIME MOTHASUCKASSSSS

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AMD CEO Shares Vision Behind Xbox Partnership and Next-Gen Chip Roadmap

AMD CEO Lisa Su talks about the Xbox AMD partnership, next-gen Ryzen + Radeon chips, and AI rendering tech coming to all Xbox devices.

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Obscure_Observer1d ago

AMD is really building hype around their unique partnership with Microsoft to help and build an advanced and seamless Xbox ecosystem across all Xbox consoles and devices.

I wonder what she meant by "full roadmap of gaming optimized chips" though? Seems ambitious.

Next year´s Xbox Showcase already looks promising and exciting. Here´s hoping they deliver.

InUrFoxHole18h ago

They had best show 3yrs in a row. Heading for another

VenomUK11h ago

Obscure_Observer said “I wonder what she meant by "full roadmap of gaming optimised chips" though? Seems ambitious.” To me, I interpret this to mean rather than having a couple of X/S products for launch and a handheld there is a longer term plan to release new products with higher specs at timed intervals. I’m speculating of course, but this could mean a spec bump every year or two, so that even if the PS6 or Steam Deck Home is released a year after ‘Xbox’ Microsoft can release an updated model that has a higher spec.

Agent751h ago

But Microsoft forgot the games.

KwietStorm_BLM6h ago

It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever.

Ganif4h ago

Correct.

"Sony's PlayStation 6 reportedly will feature an AMD semi-custom APU with a Zen 5 CPU and UDNA GPU, capable of 4K 120FPS and 8K 60FPS gaming. The console will include X3D cache and advanced AI upscaling technology."

https://www.tweaktown.com/n...

Obscure_Observer1h ago

"It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever."

I doubt that AMD´s CEO would waste her time making this huge and important partnership announcement over a tech that will be 7 years old by the those next gen consoles will be released.

Notellin41m ago

You should have just lead this comment with the fact that you have zero understanding of technology in the consoles and instead have a Toms Hardware online forum level of education.

Agent751h ago

But Microsoft forgot the games

Obscure_Observer1h ago

@VenomUK

"I’m speculating of course, but this could mean a spec bump every year or two, so that even if the PS6 or Steam Deck Home is released a year after ‘Xbox’ Microsoft can release an updated model that has a higher spec."

Very interesting theory. Still not sure how MS would actually make it work.

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Fishy Fingers23h ago(Edited 23h ago)

Some odd, deliberate wording, no branding, not 'Xbox consoles, Xbox handhelds' specifically, feels and sounds like they're building towards hardware that anyone can be used or licensed to/by themselves and other manufacturers.

Multiplatform software and hardware 'Xbox/AMD APU'.

Obscure_Observer22h ago

I guess you missed Sarah Bond´s next generation Xbox announcement this week, were she clearly states:

"I´m thrilled to share that we´ve established a strategic multi-year partnership with AMD to co-engineer silicon across a portfolio of devices, including, *our* next generation *Xbox consoles*."

But hey, I don´t think you´re entirely wrong, maybe MS will build their own Xbox consoles while licencing other manufactures to build and sell their own Xbox branded consoles. Who knows

BeHunted18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

I think you watched the wrong video. It's below the description, or you can watch it directly on YouTube.

https://youtu.be/kprpRvsOua...

HyperMoused23h ago

Shares vision....we provide chips for money, this deal will sell many chips, we will make lots of money...good vision

Christopher22h ago

The marketing behind this is so heavy that I worry about the actual outcome. Why are they just not showing us the product, why all this talking in market speak?

Lightning7718h ago

Probably because the next xbox isn't ready to release yet?

The marketing and rumors seem to be heavy out of no where. The rumor was a 27 release but it maybe it could be 26 new console launch instead.

Who knows.

Eonjay6h ago

There PR is alrways super heavy handed. No one is acutally buying an Xbox as is.
Also it is very early to be talking so much about a next gen console.

Obscure_Observer52m ago

There´s a lot of people interested on Xbox Next and its ability to run games from major stores like Steam.

We know that the PS6 is just around the corner as well, but so far, no news on what it might improve over the PS5 or PS5 Pro.

However, Sony already made public that their priority and actual focus is the PS6. So its not "very early" to talk about next gen when the very console manufactures are talking about it.

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Activision Forces Adverts into Call of Duty Black Ops 6 and Warzone Loadouts

With the launch of Call of Duty Season 4, Activision quietly put adverts inside loadouts for Black Ops 6 and Warzone, sparking a backlash in the process.

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lukasmain19d ago

Putting Ads in a pay-to-play Premium title? Well done Microsoft. Well done /s This is really scummy.

jjb198119d ago

This game will never change because these sweatlords love buying up all the skins and bundles that become obsolete the following year. They're the ones perpetuating Activision's greed.

VenomUK18d ago

If Microsoft introduces adverts into its other games I hope it can do them without disrupting the immersion of the game world. So for example in the new Fable game it would look out of place if there was a billboard advertising Cadillacs.

A far better way to do it would be to have a wizard conjure a 'dream cloud' in front of your character and then in the cloud you can see the Cadillac car and see the text with price and availability and hear a booming sales voice promoting the car. That would work so well as it wouldn't be a billboard and completely, 100%, fit in with your character's adventuring in Albion. Doesn't that sound so much better?!

crazyCoconuts18d ago

@venom, or how about our of 100 farts in Albion, 1 of them has a Cadillac pop out

VenomUK18d ago

@crazyCoconuts That’s undeniably off-beat - but it could really work!

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Xbox's first-party handheld has been sidelined

Xbox's handheld ambitions continue unabated, but the focus is shifting towards improving Windows 11 for third-party handhelds — for now. The Xbox Series X 'Melrose' successor is safe, with development continuing at full pace.

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shadowT21d ago

Is there really a market for handhelds next to mobile?

Vits21d ago

If they run the same games as the main home console, then yeah, sure.
But if they need specially tailored games just for them? Probably not, unless there isn't a home console for comparison (see Switch).

RaidenBlack20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

I am kinda low-key happy this happened.
Dont want another Series S situation (games to be designed from 4 to 12TF scale and not 10 to 12TF).
Hope PS follows suit as well. Tablet SKU sharing with console for 10th gen, will just continue the cross gen -esque development/design phase/nature.
Want a proper 20+ only TF rasterized next-gen plz (+ frame-gen and the lot).
If anybody wants to continue the cross-gen, the Series S|X, PS5 will remain for that. And Switch 2, if you gotta go even lower in the TF range.

ABizzel121d ago

Yes and No. All of the PC handhelds combined have struggled to sell 7 million units, which would be a flop for any “console”. So the market is extremely niche because of price and target market (the informed hardcore gamer / casuals aren’t picking these up).

These handheld PCs are $500 or more, and offer at best Xbox Series S performance levels, so it’s best for MS specifically to just partner with ASUS, instead of investing millions if not billions.

Sony can make their own with custom AMD hardware due to their partnership, and stronger global brand for hardware. But even then it brings the question, of being a lower resolution PS5, and what does that mean for PS6 cross-gen (likely another generation where the first 3 - 4 years are just upgraded last-gen games).

Kosic21d ago

Imagine a Wii U style console, where the tablet doesn't rely on the console it's self, you download the game on the console under the TV and play in 4k glory, then you can remote play, get some unique game features if using both console and handheld in tandem. Then you can download the games in 720-1080p to play on the go, continue your progress, and continue on the TV when you get back.

Sony could get away with this due to exclusives, and that would be a reason for sales. Look at the portal.

I can picture seeing new hardware having some sort of GPU dock, where the handheld runs 1080p, and the dock has additional hardware to bring in 4k/60 specs.

I do think handheld gaming is going to be a strong future, imagine Nintendo release a new upgraded GPU dock for the Switch 3, every 2 years. More frames, sharper graphics on the same game for an extra £150 for a dock with a built in GPU chip. Console cycles doesn't have to be renewed, just the hardware can be improved by them reselling docks to us again and again with small/yearly upgrades like mobile phones.

GamerRN20d ago

Did you just imply that Sony can make a better stronger handheld than Microsoft? You do realize we are talking about Microsoft, the tech giant, right? If Microsoft can't make one that's cost effective, Sony definitely can't...

Brand and market share means nothing when you are a trillion dollar company

ABizzel120d ago

@GamerRN

It has nothing to do with what company can do it, or what company can spend.

For anyone taking a basic business class there is a term called ROI, and Xbox home consoles are selling at an all time low, meaning their ROI on a handheld is a risk that doesn’t make sense, even if they can afford it. Businesses are there to make money and it doesn’t make sene for MS to invest in a handheld that’s a companion device when their current home consoles they’ve spent 20 years working on are at an all time-low, when they can invest with little risk with what ASUS already has to offer.

This is why Sony can build a better device, because they have less risk involved, meaning they can invest more in their own product, and they already have an exclusive partnership with AMD on creating features and hardware. So in this specific case, YES Sony can built a better handheld, due to custom hardware, customer tools, low level APIs, compared to an off the shelf product running Windows or a Window Xbox kernel =.

TheEroica21d ago

I play steam deck primarily... Don't play consoles or mobile. The deck covers it all.

badz14920d ago

@shadowT

The Switch is a handheld, so will the Switch 2. what are you on about?

Cacabunga20d ago

To run native games offline? Anytime

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CrashMania21d ago

Funny to see the alt already damage controlling and having a meltdown with multiple accounts in the comments already.

Sad for MS if true, a dedicated handheld would go down a lot better than a rog ally 2 with an Xbox sticker on it I think.

crazyCoconuts21d ago

It couldn't have succeeded for a number of reasons. Now they've retreated to the Windows front and trying to keep that relevant for gaming. How long before Windows Central realizes there won't be a real console successor to Series X either?

Lightning7721d ago

Except there is. That project is reportedly full speed ahead.

Outside_ofthe_Box21d ago

@Lighting77

So was the handheld until today...

Lightning7721d ago

@outside obviously not since they sidelined it and they wanna see how the Asus does. Are you saying they're gonna cancel the next console?

crazyCoconuts21d ago

@lightning - I'm admittedly trying to box you in here - Do you think the next Xbox console will have Steam on it?

Outside_ofthe_Box21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

@Lightning

Here we go with having to spell everything out.

If I told you yesterday that Xbox was going to sideline the handheld console what would your response have been? Probably something along the lines of "I doubt that since Phil has been talking about it for some time now"

My point is just because they are "full speed" ahead now does not mean that will not change in future. As we have seen with the handheld. Do you understand what I'm trying to say now?

Lightning7720d ago (Edited 20d ago )

Box me in? No you said the same thing you've always been saying for years now. Those are the rumors to have Steam integration.

What about it

If you told me they were gonna cancel it tomorrow it would nothing more than fanboy talking points. I only wait for credible sources not what someone else says.

Also this is the handheld not a full blown new console. The Asus is yet to release and they're waiting to see how that thing does. Critical thinking is my strong suit you should try it some time if you can. But Ok cool well you hang your hat on that I guess. Main New console is gonna get cancelled even though the handheld is a different marketing device than the main the console itself.

__y2jb20d ago

I think there is a 75% chance there will not be another Xbox. There is zero reason to buy one now. No way it can possibly sell more than 10m units after Xbox went third party.

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BLow21d ago

That's what they do. Goalposts shift like the wind.

I'm really confused on why they are making a "first party" device and also have a Rog Ally with their sticker on it. Make this make sense. How is their own device going to be any different?

Your console doesn't sell and they expect a handheld to?

RaidenBlack20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

The Rog Ally one is gen agnostic ... as you deciphered, it was to be the updated Rog Ally but just with Xbox branding. PC handheld with some Xbox features.
The handheld Xbox is/was supposed to be sharing the same gen/ecosystem with the next-gen (10th gen) Xbox. Think Series S but handheld ... it'll run the Xbox OS or whatever the next Xbox will run.
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As for anybody wondering/confused why MS is doing another Xbox console ... coz mainly its the 10th gen of home consoles next, which started wayy back in 1972 for the 1st gen. And MS wanna be part in it, in the 10th anniversary gen of consoles. If they gotta bow out, they can't do that at 9th i.e just before 10th. They wanna stick around till the 10th or the X-th gen and check what the fuss happens.

Outside_ofthe_Box21d ago

Curious as to what excuses the spam was saying. Because prior to this news, the Xbox handheld was used as proof that Xbox is still committed to the hardware space. This handheld being scraped is not a good sign...

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Outside_ofthe_Box21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

@Spam
You can replace scrapped with pushed back if you like. It's not a good sign either way.

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1Victor20d ago

asq3= obscured: “ What’s your source on the handheld being scrapped? “
Read the article from Microsoft own website and one of your favorite quotations site when it’s something bad about Sony.
Oh BTW good luck with your next SPAM account.

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